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Tennessee Ticket Probe

Posted on Wednesday November 11, 2009 at 09:01 AM 6 |

A months-long ticketing investigation in Nashville recently reinforced what many have been saying for years – holdbacks eat up a large percentage of tickets before onsales and artists may play a larger role in secondary ticketing than they let on.

The city’s NewsChannel 5 recently dug up internal ticket contracts and audit reports for a pair of shows at the city’s Sommet Center – a Keith Urban benefit concert for the Country Music Hall of Fame and a Sept. 12 Taylor Swift concert – revealing details of seldom seen but industrywide practices.

Urban and Co. had advertised all tickets were $25 and said they’d go on sale Sept. 2, but WTVF found that roughly 10,000 tickets to the 15,000-capacity show at the Sommet Center had been allocated to holdbacks and members of Urban’s Monkeyville fan club before the onsale.

And of those tickets allocated to Monkeyville, for which fans also paid $25 to gain access, NewsChannel 5 reported numerous tickets ended up on the secondary market at prices as high as $642.

The story was the same for some of the seats allocated to American Express cardholders and fan clubbers at Taylor Swift’s show. The station found section 2 tickets that went for $49.50 being sold on the secondary market for as much $1,177 each.

Fan club tickets aren’t the only ones that have ended up on the secondary market in recent times.

Ticket documents for Urban’s Escape Together tour showed that his team instructed venues to hold 50 prime seats to be auctioned off through Ticketmaster and another 150 Platinum seats to be sold at a markup through TM’s TicketExchange for each date.

Representatives for Urban reportedly told WTVF the singer agreed to the TM deal in order to help finance the remainder of the tickets for the Escape Together run, which were sold for $20 each.

However, the station found that only 389 of the 15,000 tickets for Urban’s Escape Together show in Nashville Aug. 29 were available to the public for $20.

Likewise, ticket documents for the Swift concert showed that out of 13,330 seats, only 1,591 were available during the public onsale.

Industry commentator and “Lefsetz Letter” author Bob Lefsetz told WTVF, “The whole business is smoke and mirrors” and these situations occur because “no one is policing them, telling them to tell the truth.”

In the case of this Urban show specifically, Lefsetz said one problem is that those tickets were worth much more than $25, a price determined more by the country star’s image than value. And, of course, “Scalpers are working everything.”

Tennessee Attorney General Bob Cooper issued a statement to NewsChannel 5 regarding the ticket offerings.

“Promoters should be careful not to make misleading claims about the price and availability of tickets,” Cooper said. “Deceptive practices in the marketing of goods or services is a violation of Tennessee’s consumer protection laws.

“Whether a violation has taken place depends on the facts of each case. We encourage consumers who feel like they have been misled to file a complaint with the Division of Consumer Affairs. We need as much detailed information as possible so we can determine if a violation of the law has occurred.”

Borman Entertainment referred Pollstar to Urban spokesman Paul Freundlich, who was not available at press time.

Swift manager Robert Allen issued the following:

“If you look at the numbers, Taylor Swift tickets are supposed to be some of the more affordable shows in every marketplace,” he said. “Taylor herself made sure the price points were affordable for fans, and anybody can sign up for free for pre-sales at TaylorSwift.com.

“Taylor does not condone sales of her tickets through secondary brokers, nor does she profit in any way from the inflated pricing of secondary sales. We know, and your investigation shows, that the concert ticketing system in our industry is flawed, at best, and we will wholeheartedly support any legislation enacted to regulate the industry.”

6 Comments leave a comment

  1. 12
    lungman wrote:

    10:37 AM, Nov 11, 2009

    just another example of the music biz playing fans for suckers... too bad so many fall for it.

  2. 2
    I Like The Secondary Market wrote:

    11:19 AM, Nov 11, 2009

    Honestly, I wish they would just leave the secondary market alone!  

    What is the big deal?  

    The socondary market is a great way for people like me, who are willing to pay more for better seats, to get to see the show in the seats I am willing to pay more for.  If they were to end the secondary market, I would never have a chance to see my concerts way up front, like I like to.  

    There are only so many seats way up front, and they sell out right away.  I can just go to Ebay and buy any seats I like, as long as I have the money to do so, and boom, I am 5th row center floor.  

    An average buyer, like me, will have NO CHANCE to get such great seats.  I am glad there is a way to get great seats.  

    Please get off your high horse, and let us have the option to buy on the secondary market.  

    You have better things to police, like violent criminals.  

    This is a waste a valuable time and resources!!!  

  3. 2
    I Like The Secondary Market wrote:

    11:21 AM, Nov 11, 2009

    The secondary market is a great way for people like me, who are willing to pay more for better seats, to get to see the show in the seats that I am willing to pay more for.  If they were to end the secondary market, I would never have a chance to see my concerts way up front, like I like to.

    Please police violent criminals, and leave us alone!!!

  4. 107
    candl wrote:

    12:44 PM, Nov 11, 2009

    I LIKE SECONDARY MARKET IS NOT A REAL FAN. So are we to believe that if not in the best seats you can not have a good time? I never scalp and go to 80 to 120 shows a year and I have gotten prime seats. Go off your lazy backside and do the right thing and commit what in many states is a crime.

  5. 101
    wyogirl13 wrote:

    07:50 PM, Nov 11, 2009

    Well, for once a  fanclub actually did get to buy the tickets for $25 bucks, and a lot of actual fans did get those tickets.   I certainly don't consider the fanclubs getting a block of tickets a problem!  Ticket resellers are the plague of concerts and events.   The news reporting "numerous tickets" is a pretty vague number.  

     We all know the marketing groups, radio, promoters, etc  get first dibs on the best seats, and it doesn't help that TM owns everything.  

  6. 1
    dindae wrote:

    07:48 AM, Nov 12, 2009

    First off this story tells me nothing I didn't know was going on already. I don't have a problem with a secondary market. If some dumbass wants to pay $1000 to see a band good for them. The whole "presale" idea is dumb anyway. It was one thing when it was something band did to reward thier uber fans that were a part of thier fan clubs. But now all you have to do to get in on a presale is click on a webpage and give them you email if that. There is no exclusivity to it so it because the main sale. There is no point of having one except to capture email addresses and send out spam. This is why there were only 1591 out of the 13000 tickets at public sale because everyone knows about presales that buys tickets and had bought thiers already.

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