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You Say Tomato…

05:01 PM, Thursday 12/17/09 14 |   |

By now most of you are aware that the inductees for the 2010 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony were announced earlier this week. And people are really steamed about some of the choices – just like they have been almost every year since the HoF was created. So let’s take a look at why and what I think is really the issue here.

This year the loudest howls of protest come from fans (and critics) outraged over the inclusion of a “pop” group like ABBA instead of a "real rock band" like KISS or Rush.

Before we go any further, let me make one thing clear: I’m not trying to denigrate KISS in any way. I’m simply trying to point out that in my opinion, the entire concept of a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as it exists now is flawed. Got that? Okay, here goes.

While there's no denying that KISS has had an important impact on modern music, I would argue that it's in terms of the concert as a show or full-blown spectacle and innovations in marketing and not necessarily a musical contribution. (C'mon if they were so serious about being a “rock” band and the ideals of the genre, would they have done a DISCO song? "I Was Made for Loving You" is flat out disco. It's only a couple of chord changes and a Donna Summer vocal away from being "Hot Stuff" or "Bad Girls.")

So if you look at the issue in terms of sheer musical contribution to the modern music industry – and after a review of the acts that have made it in, that appears to be the one of the main criteria for inclusion – Abba blows KISS away.

What do I mean by that? Simple. Walk into a room full of people anywhere in the world and start singing any of Abba's dozens of hits and people can (and will) sing along with you. With the exception of The Beatles and Michael Jackson, there’s probably not another act that can claim that kind of recognition.

In fact, I’ll bet if you went through the catalogs of a few of the post-Abba groups considered real “rock bands” by some of the loudest complainers and listened objectively, you’d hear the distinct influence of Björn and Benny on both song structure and vocal harmonies. (Don’t believe me? Go dig out your Guns N' Roses or Smashing Pumpkins collection right now.)

Of course some people would point out what’s really going on here is a popularity contest. And to an extent that’s true. In many ways, the HoF has become an extension of the Grammy Awards, where it often seems voting members focus on sales figures over anything else when picking winners.

But here’s what I believe the real problem is: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a misnamed. I think the basis of most people's complaints about who is or isn’t included can be traced to the name of the damned thing. By calling it the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame," the people who created it severely limited themselves and then failed to stick to that limit.

That’s why in ’87 people complained about Aretha Franklin getting in and in ’92 some people bitched about Johnny Cash. Inducting Sly and The Family Stone (’93), Parliament-Funkadelic (’97) and Earth, Wind & Fire (2000) also stirred up considerable debate. But the griping didn’t really reach a level approaching all-out revolt until 2008, when Madonna and Leonard Cohen – both arguably not rock ‘n’ roll performers – were inducted.

Over the past couple of days, the debate has been friendly but fierce among a group of music writers and industry people who are part of my circle of Facebook friends. And some of them have raised some questions worth addressing.

An acquaintance from the Midwest made the case that inclusion into the HoF should be based on artistry and not on popularity. That’s all well and good, but how do you determine that?

There’s no question that Bob Dylan is a songwriting genius, but does his singing or guitar playing qualify as “artistry”? And what about The Ramones? Not one thing about them is terribly artistic musically, but they’re HoF members (and they should be). Besides, making “artistry” the main criteria smacks of elitism and that’s the last thing something calling itself the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” should be guilty of.

(Speaking of artistry, how come Electric Light Orchestra has never gotten in? Jeff Lynne is a production and arranging genius. He's like the Mozart of 20th century pop/rock, who’s worked sonic miracles not only for himself but for The Traveling Wilburys, George Harrison and many others. It’s time to forgive him for Xanadu.)

As it stands now, there are acts who’ve been inducted into this exclusive club for whom I have nothing but the utmost respect, but I’m not sure they really belong in a “Rock and Roll” Hall of Fame. Take for example Dusty Springfield.

Springfield, who most people only remember for her hairstyle, frosted lipstick and “Son of a Preacher Man,” played a major part in music history that few people outside the industry are really aware of: She almost single-handedly helped Motown artists overcome racial prejudices in the U.K. and Europe.

In the early ’60s, white artists like Pat Boone covered songs by African American acts because commercial radio stations wouldn’t play them. To make matters worse the original acts often weren’t allowed on television because of racial prejudices.

Springfield, who at the time was one of the biggest names in the U.K., not only covered hits by Motown groups, she created and hosted a television show, “The Sounds of Motown,” in 1965 and insisted that producers fly artists like Stevie Wonder, The Supremes and The Temptations to Britain and let them appear on the air. The exposure helped U.K. and European audiences begin to overcome negative racial perceptions they had developed with regard to the civil rights movement.

There’s no question this is a significant contribution, but is it worthy of inclusion in something called the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame”? Not really, even if you add in the fact that the singer was one of the first female artists responsible for the production of her own records. (Her work was uncredited at the time.) And is Dusty Springfield even a “rock” artist? Absolutely not. She’s the embodiment of a “pop” star.

So where does that leave us? Basically in the middle of a really messy situation with three choices.

First, fans (and critics) can loosen up about what they consider “rock.” As one person here in the office pointed out, they really should because “rock ‘n’ roll itself came about as a blend of Gospel, Country and Blues. Trying to argue against the inclusion of any genre is difficult to do when you get historical about it.”

Second, Jann Wenner and the rest of the board of the HoF can either more clearly outline their thought process and criteria for including a band in the nominations or change the name of the institution.

Or third, because the chance of either of the first two things happening is about as likely as the sun coming up in the south tomorrow morning, we can all just shut up and enjoy the music.

14 Comments leave a comment

  1. 82
    Kinks wrote:

    05:45 PM, Dec 17, 2009

    Gimme a break. the HOF is nothing but a geriatric country club organized by a clueless magazine publisher to bring together artists past their prime for a jam session and aftershow orgy. They stroke each others' egos, mainline viagra, and chat about the wonders of botox, then get onstage to pretend they're relevant, then go back to their penthouse apartments for a competitive circle jerk to prove it all night. Rock and roll all night and party every day? They wish they still could! Once or twice a year is all they can attempt usually. And most of 'em did at least 1 disco song in the 70's: Stones, Rod, Blondie, Bruce and Bee Gees. Clueless elites. Bahh!!!

  2. 12
    Greystoke124 wrote:

    05:30 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    Said it before and I'll say it again. Until Alice Cooper is in the HOF of fame I will boycott anything to do with it. Any of their records or TV specials. The voting is a joke and all true rock fans know it.

    As Gene Simmons once said "The Hall of Fame can kiss my a**."

  3. 8
    morrisonrocks wrote:

    06:06 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    Let's not forget what the Sex Pistols called the Hall of Fame... "a piss stain."  When the institution loses the respect of the artists it claims to honor, it ceases to be relevant.  ABBA does rock!  Percy Sledge... not so much.

  4. 1
    _deadhead_ wrote:

    07:09 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    Dont put down The Ramones dude! Not really artistic? Define artistic music! If you start arguing what band is more artistic then the other. Then what is art, then who is more artsy. I's never gonna end

    Who runs this Rock'nRoll hall of fame? I dont get it. Who has the authority to choose who should be there.

    I really don't like institutions

  5. 59
    Saneaux wrote:

    07:14 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    Rock n' roll is truly a blend of country, bluegrass, pop, blues, boogie, funk and any other musical styling you can think of. Therefore, why not induct those who work with the roots as well as the fruits?

    I also can't help but say I've never heard anything so stupid as this:  "There’s no question that Bob Dylan is a songwriting genius, but does his singing or guitar playing qualify as “artistry”?"

  6. 84
    JohnnyCotts wrote:

    09:02 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    I think what Deadhead and saneaux are trying to say there's a difference between musical proficiency and artistry.  Rock legends like Dylan and the Ramones may not have been profficient at their instruments (okay they definitely were not), but no one can say there was not an inherent element of ART to what they did.  Just because they didn't play the guitar like Jimi Hendrix or have a vocal range like Robert Plant doesn't mean their music wasn't ART.  

  7. 231
    Evster wrote:

    09:35 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    I believe the criteria for induction has more to do with INFLUENCE than anything else. If you ignore for the moment the subjective (i.e. artistry) and the purely statistical (i.e. popularity), and simply focus on those artists who have had the most profound influence on other artists, you'll get a healthy dose of both, but maintain the priority where it should be: the EVOLUTION of a still-nascent art form.

  8. 4
    ribsnwhiskey wrote:

    09:49 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    I am certainly willing to include a broader range of artists than the term "rock n roll" may apply to 100%. Sly & The Family Stone were not a "rock" band but Sly Stone is and always will be a total rockstar. But I will never forgive the voters for choosing Madonna on the same ballot they denied The Beastie Boys. The Beastie Boys are everything; the kings of rap, a rock band, jazz, funk. Go see them live and they will cover all genres in one song. Piss on Madonna, though I guess nothing says rock n roll like a dirty ***. Next year they will vote in notable groupies- Plaster Caster 2011.

  9. 84
    JohnnyCotts wrote:

    10:02 AM, Dec 18, 2009

    Evster is totally correct on the influential criteria.  And Ribsnwhiskey is right on the money with his anti-Madonna / pro-Beastie Boys feelings.

  10. 28
    crispy smegma wrote:

    12:55 PM, Dec 18, 2009

    Until they induct Goatwhore the HOF is dead to me.

  11. 30
    bigdad wrote:

    04:37 PM, Dec 18, 2009

    I just wish they would make up their mind about whether influence is essential in the voting. If this were true, than people like Alice Cooper and bands like RUSH would be instantly in.

    Cooper influence how the concert experience could expand into theatrics (Bowie as well and he's in).

    RUSH goes without saying, what other three musicians in any band influenced the playing and matering of their instruments more than they. I respect the drummers from all eras but who has influenced the millions ( yes millions) of drummers playing now.

    And for that matter, the bands of today like Weezer, Fall Out Boy, and even the White Stripes owe a debt to Cheap Trick. The simplicity of the songs and rhythyms and hooks...no band did it better.

    And don't get me started on the 70's and 80's Areana rock bands (Boston, Foreigner, Styx, etc...)...if sales were the basis for voting, Journey would be the first of these bands in..but alas, they're not even in the conversation because rock critics would never admit to enjoying their music.

  12. 101
    Cadwallin wrote:

    11:29 AM, Dec 19, 2009

    It's funny for me to hear there's such debate in the world about the HoF.  I pay about as much attention to it as I do Top 40 and the Grammys.  But I always thought artists were chosen, not voted on, and that "Rock & Roll" in the Hall's name stood for "music," more so than a specific genre.  I also never thought the industry paid particular attention to the HoF and that it was just a nicety to honor folks who've been performing for a long time.  Ultimately, to avoid future debates, perhaps they should just modify their mission statement (though I don't know what it currently declares) to say they'll honor whomever they see fit.  Pretty simple fix.  Who cares what the place is named.