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Discussion: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Noms

04:01 PM Wednesday 9/29/10 |   |

The nominees for the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame have been announced and, like every year, some things are immutable. For one, KISS ain’t one of them, while a younger band, like Bon Jovi, is. There’s the eventual inductee, like Neil Diamond, finally getting some notice. And there’s stuff like LL Cool J.

The nominees are always the no-braniers – it’s just taking pages out of Rolling Stone’s “History of Rock & Roll” every year. Fair enough. And clicking around on the HoF’s website, they’ve covered all the basics – B.B. King, The Animals, Springsteen, etc.

But we were having a quick discussion here in the office. And by discussion, anyone at Pollstar knows that means this lowly scribe babbles in the middle of a cubicle to nobody while the other writers wear their headphones and find solace in Facebook.

Their loss. The point I was making was, what if the criteria was influence, and that alone? Yup, there would still be Eric Clapton and The Who. But check it out: I think there are plenty of artists missing.

But instead of LL Cool J, there would be “Rappers Delight” trailblazers Sugarhill Gang or Kurtis Blow who are still waiting. Meaning, there would be no Ladies Love Cool James if there was no “The Breaks.”

So here are a few inductees because of their influence on rock ‘n’ roll. Right off the bat, Jonathan Richman with or w/o Modern Lovers. “Roadrunner” may not be a song the public knows or cares about but pretty much anyone who’s played guitar in a garage band has been indoctrinated to one of the last great modern riffs of rock ‘n’ roll.

Or, for that matter, The Kingsmen. Believe it or not, they’re not in the HoF. “Louie, Louie,” yes. But the version done by the half-mysterious Kingsmen is one of the first songs ever played by any kid band, anywhere, any time.

X. For criminey sakes, X.

Gang of Four – without them there would never have been a U2. Oh, and check out their new shizzle.

I posed this question on my extremely popular Facebook page and here are some of the more inspired answers:

“The Sonics.  Those guys helped start garage rock.”

“Avedis Zildjian. Jim Keltner; just check-out his resume. The Neville Brothers. The Meters.”

“Are the Melvins in there?” (FYI, no)

“Jim Keltner is an obvious choice, Cheap Trick, The Moody Blues.”

I checked: The Moody Blues are not on the list. Now remember, we’re talking about influence here. Cheap Trick is clearly a good choice but is there a band that influenced them? Actually, probably a bunch of crappy popular bands that they didn’t want to be like.

But the infamous “they” say that Cheap Trick was influenced by Big Star. Big Star! Big Star and Alex Chilton are not in the HoF. And Big Star influenced The Replacements, who are not in the HoF but influenced all of Grunge. They are also cited as an influence by The Bangles. Holy eff, The Bangles. The Go-Gos.

Also, people mentioned bands like Nirvana. But it has to be 25 years since the first record for the artist to be nominated. People also mentioned bands like Queen and acts like Grandmaster Flash, who are already inducted.

Just curious about what you might think but here’s the handy dandy checklist before making a foo of yo seff.

Comments

  1. DeltaSigChi4 wrote:

    12:12 PM, Dec 13, 2010

    Yeah, what are legendary artists like Bob Marley and Pete Seeger and Billie Holiday and Leonard Cohen doing in the Hall of Fame. It should only be for Rock and Roll. Wait, not really, 'live concert freak' is just a tad mistaken. Why not change your lame handle to 'live ROCK & ROLL concert freak', since you obviously know little about concerts.

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  2. live concert freak wrote:

    06:04 AM, Dec 13, 2010

     This is a bunch of nonsense!! The day they put Madonna and Rap artists in they perverted it into the music hall of fame!!! These are not rpck and rollers just pop stars!!! Why not the dead FREAK M Jackson, Tony Orlando and Dawn, Kiki Dee, and The Bay City Rollers and all the rest of the crappy music that came alomg back then!! This is such a shame that a great idea has been tarnished by the board of directors who WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE GOOD OLE ROCK AND ROLL IF IT BIT THEM ON THE ASH!!!!!! I'm sure they have Donny and Marie on stand by for induction...........   "GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!!"

  3. derosa wrote:

    10:41 PM, Dec 12, 2010

    Where is T. Rex?? What about Roxy Music? The Shangri-Las? The Sir Douglas Quintet? Paul Revere & The Raiders? Link Wray?

  4. DeltaSigChi4 wrote:

    10:04 AM, Dec 12, 2010

    "Rap music blows, and the negative impact it's had on our kids is immeasurable. So sad."

    What a RIDICULOUS statement. You know what was said about rock and roll? The same, by idiots just like you.

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  5. utopian007 wrote:

    09:53 AM, Oct 05, 2010

    How about everyone's favorite garage band, Grand Funk???

  6. kaientai wrote:

    02:34 PM, Oct 03, 2010

    Amen to Deep Purple..... How these guys were never nominated is anyone's guess.  They are number #4 here   www.notinhalloffame.com/news.php  

  7. Rock N Roll Postman wrote:

    09:47 PM, Oct 01, 2010

    ALICE COOPER ITS ABOUT TIME!!!!!

  8. Anonymous wrote:

    04:57 PM, Sep 30, 2010

    Sorry about the double-dip. The website said the first one didn't go through. Also, sorry Cleveland, I'll never go to the "Kinda rock-and-roll" hall of fame. Rap music blows, and the negative impact it's had on our kids is immeasurable. So sad. Thanks Aerosmith for the walk this way video that made it all happen. ROCK-On!

  9. Anonymous wrote:

    04:47 PM, Sep 30, 2010

    Deep Purple for sure!! Every member of the Mark-II lineup is an all-star in his own right. Kiss should also be in, even though I'm pretty burned out on Gene and another new lineup. Iron Maiden would also be a no- brainer.Later! Rock-On!

  10. Anonymous wrote:

    04:42 PM, Sep 30, 2010

    Deep Purple for sure!! Every member of that band is an all-star! Kiss should also be in, even though I'm pretty burned out on Gene and the new lineup. Can someone help me out with Iron Maiden? Are they in?

  11. El Perro wrote:

    01:34 PM, Sep 30, 2010

    Rolling Stone Magazine is to blame for just how bland, weak and pathetic the RRHOF is.  Their writers enjoy nothing but simple minded garbage and the rock gods of their youths, from 64-79.  Other than that they just go for nonsense (Chic) that they think they need to include for the sake of "diversity" and then write glowing, on their knees, panting fanboy reviews of modern pablum like Kings of Leon. I couldn't hate Rolling Stone or schmucks like David Marsh any more if I tried.  

  12. michaelharkins wrote:

    11:17 AM, Sep 30, 2010

    Over the past decade, music industry executives and major conglomerate controlled broadcast media outlets have increasingly perpetuated the formulaic homogenization and dumbing down of popular musical tastes. Who knows… perhaps by providing a little exposure to this important musical legacy, it may inspire a whole new generation of breakout progressive rock artists, concept albums and create substantial numbers of new progressive rock fans, thus injecting new life into the sagging music industry.